When writing stories about Nazis, there are a few questions that are worth asking. For example, what is it that makes someone want to follow an ideology that led to the death of millions of people in Europe? Why is there hate? Does the subject realize that by following an arbitrary list of physical and genetic characteristics, one can easily possess one that could cause them to become the pariah in a genocidal and fascistic mindset? Should Americans punch them?
The piece shouldn't, on the other hand, be spending more time on how Nazis are just like us, when you think about it.
Over the weekend, The New York Times released a piece, "A voice of hate in America's heartland," which was immediately blasted as a puff piece about how American a couple of Nazis could really seem. Here's the first scene-setter, where we're introduced to a couple of white supremacists mulling over what to order at a chain restaurant.
It was a weeknight at Applebee’s in Huber Heights, a suburb of Dayton, a few weeks before the wedding. The couple, who live in nearby New Carlisle, were shoulder to shoulder at a table, young and in love. He was in a plain T-shirt, she in a sleeveless jean jacket. She ordered the boneless wings. Her parents had met him, she said, and approved of the match. The wedding would be small. Some of her best friends were going to be there. “A lot of girls are not really into politics,” she said.
The profile — which at one time featured an actual link to a site where a reader could purchase a swastika armband — allowed its white supremacist subject to say things like fascism is "our version of centrally coming together to try to stop another already centralized force.” More time was given to allowing him to spout off his ill-perceived view of the world than to watchdogs, who study the effects of white nationalism in everyday life, and their warnings of giving this ideology any credibility in mainstream America.
The outrage was pretty swift.
One more quick thing about that NYT profile of Hovater. Remember the podcast the author mentions? Well, I listened to a couple of episodes.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
Here's the sole quote from the podcast that appears in the piece. It's ... not representative of the show's content. pic.twitter.com/ztEJ58deJX
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
Heimbach does most of the talking on the podcast. Hovater is mostly his sidekick and foil. I never heard them disagree. Here's what I did hear…
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
Heimbach is obsessed with Jews, and with supposed Jewish domination of society. He uses the phrase "the Jew" a lot.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
He's a big fan of Hitler. He drops quotes multiple times into both episodes, usually banal ones. "As Adolf Hitler says..."
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
Both of them are aggressively hostile toward gays and feminists, aspects of their bigotry that are never mentioned in the Times piece.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
It's clear that they're hoping for and working toward a Nazi takeover of the US. Heimbach uses the term "Weimerica" to describe the US today.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
The themes of the podcast (mostly) aren't absent from the piece. They are, however, muted in the story. Alluded to rather than illustrated.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
As I said in my previous thread, these guys aren't "Nazi sympathizers," as the article put it. They're Nazis. They're Nazis. Nazis organizing other Nazis.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
I learned ten times as much about Hovater and Heimbach from listening to two episodes of their stupid podcast than I did from reading the Times profile. That's a scandal.
— Angus Johnston (@studentactivism) November 27, 2017
That's pretty much the reaction everywhere.
On Sunday, the Times tried a bit of damage control, writing one of the most understated paragraphs in recent journalism history.
Whatever our goal, a lot of readers found the story offensive, with many seizing on the idea we were normalizing neo-Nazi views and behavior. “How to normalize Nazis 101!” one reader wrote on Twitter. “I’m both shocked and disgusted by this article,” wrote another. “Attempting to ‘normalize’ white supremacist groups – should Never have been printed!”
Our reporter and his editors agonized over the tone and content of the article. The point of the story was not to normalize anything but to describe the degree to which hate and extremism have become far more normal in American life than many of us want to think.
We described Mr. Hovater as a bigot, a Nazi sympathizer who posted images on Facebook of a Nazi-like America full of happy white people and swastikas everywhere.
But the damage was done. It's hard to un-whitewash a white supremacist, and the Times will have to live with their tale of how not to profile a Nazi for a long, long time.
1/ The NYTimes is densely defending their article by claiming it was intended to shed light on the normalcy of racism in American society.
I agree this is a worthy topic of discussion.
So, let’s talk about all the things the Times could have *actually* achieved this. . . . pic.twitter.com/9ZsHMxsz8p
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
2/ First, what did they do wrong? Well, a lot of things. The article reads like a soft-focus profile of a racist who’s really just a normal dude w/ thoughts and feelings.
You can write profiles like this about coal miners.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
3/ If you are doing a profile of someone based on their ideology, your job is to get to the heart of that ideology.
Your job is to challenge the subject to describe & defend their position.
Your job is to then place that position w/in a broader socio-cultural context.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
4/ Otherwise you are just giving a racist an unchallenged platform.
The Times failed in many respects, but, above all, they failed by enthusiastically allowing Horvater to drive the narrative of his own white supremacy.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
5/ Here are some ways they could have avoided this:
The Times could have asked Horvater what he meant when he said “things have gotten bad.”
Or, perhaps, what he meant by "normal people" pic.twitter.com/B7XOvF0diW
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
6/ The Times could have pressed his wife on how, exactly, she was politically "lined" w/ her husband.
They could have asked her *why* and *how* she began to disbelieve the narrative of how Trayvon Martin was murdered. pic.twitter.com/01freJK6KD
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
7/ The Times could have included some history of how the term “heritage” has been used among white supremacists (including our president). pic.twitter.com/66fjDCGAFl
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
7/ The Times could have included some history of how the term “heritage” has been used among white supremacists (including our president). pic.twitter.com/66fjDCGAFl
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
8/ And WTF is up w/ this sentence?
Is this a paraphrase of something Horvater said?
Because, the way it’s written, it sounds like an objective observation. Writing 101. pic.twitter.com/NXG5kesfX8
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
9/ So, the Times wrote about how Horvater helped found the Traditionalist Workers Party (TWP). And then basically wrote NOTHING about the ideology or history of the party.
What could they have done differently?
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
10/ Well, they could have interviewed an expert on hate crimes & hate groups and asked them specifically about the Traditionalist Worker Party: pic.twitter.com/oE7FI4Ga8F
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
11 (They only interviewed one scholar in the entire article. To ask about the number of members)
(This is seriously the only quote from an expert in the entire article): pic.twitter.com/naI2UuoABz
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
12/ They could have included info about the TWP's view on homosexuality. . . .or, I dunno. . . on THE HOLOCAUST: pic.twitter.com/vANWrS0wZM
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
13/ The Times could have discussed the long history of the “philosophy” underlying the Traditionalist Worker Party’s platform: pic.twitter.com/hbSNhlT6S2
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
14/ A simple Wikipedia search would have provided the Times w/ the necessary info to place the TWP’s underlying ideology (as well as Horvater) w/in the broader historic & contemporary context of white nationalism: pic.twitter.com/QflzRoINnQ
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
15/ And, though we got to see pictures of Horvater staring into the sunset, driving his car, and shopping (JUST LIKE YOU DO!), it would have been helpful if the Times had also provided images of what TWP's members look like when they're on duty: pic.twitter.com/u8WGp7wueC
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
16/ What are some other things the Times could done?
Well they could have interviewed a behavioral scientist on the psychological traits of white supremacists. How they justify their hatred, etc. . . .
As well as the tendencies of their white neighbors to look the other way. pic.twitter.com/10mTHc6vgs
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
17/ While they were portraying Horvater as just a typical dude, they could have included historical research on the utter ordinariness of people who engage in racial/ethnic hate. . . . pic.twitter.com/tpVYMgABBA
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
18/ And why didn’t the Times elaborate on Horvater’s Holocaust Denial? He has a David Irving book on his shelf. How many Jewish people does Horvater think were killed by the Nazis, for example?
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
19/ Or, what does Horvater think Hitlers "cause" was?
And why does he distinguish between Himmler & Hitler?
Did the Times ask ANY follow-up questions about this???!!! pic.twitter.com/EUtuhPIa2e
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
19/ Or, what does Horvater think Hitlers "cause" was?
And why does he distinguish between Himmler & Hitler?
Did the Times ask ANY follow-up questions about this???!!! pic.twitter.com/EUtuhPIa2e
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
20/ The Times could have, I dunno, done some research on whether or not pinpointing Himmler, while defending Hitler, is a common strategy amongst Holocaust deniers (Hint: IT IS.). pic.twitter.com/gvHHM8byx1
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
21/ The Times could have mentioned how many people deny the Holocaust, the reasons they do so, the denialist arguments they advance, and how Horvater fits into this broader pattern.
All of this would have ACTUALLY shined a light on the nature of white supremacy in America.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
22/ Now. . . . . .let me see. . . . . who else could The Times have talked to. . . .?
Tricky, tricky, tricky, tricky. . . .
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
23/ Oh, I DUNNO, maybe local CIVIL RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS? pic.twitter.com/7wXTbM1yXN
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
24/ Or, here's a thought, maybe they could have talked to some of the black people who live in the same town as the founder of a Neo-Nazi group? pic.twitter.com/qZGnHaJloY
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
25/ Or included some research about hate crime in Ohio?: pic.twitter.com/P8kNvGUL28
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
26/ Or about the history of racism in the state? And the justificatory narratives people advance to defend this racism?
Narratives that just happen to perfectly map onto Horvater's own justification of his ideology? pic.twitter.com/L8Y3ZIDwNO
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
27/ The inclusion of ANY of these factors could have allowed the Times to *actually* shine a light on white supremacy, the people who engage in it, and the people who cast a blind eye.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
28/ Instead, the Times gave us a profile of a racist, his eyebrows, his ordinariness, and allowed that racist to drive the narrative.
They didn't challenge him.
They didn't place his ideology w/in a broader context.
They just elevated him.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
28/ Instead, the Times gave us a profile of a racist, his eyebrows, his ordinariness, and allowed that racist to drive the narrative.
They didn't challenge him.
They didn't place his ideology w/in a broader context.
They just elevated him.
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
29/ Oh, and one more thing:
If you are going to write about a person who participated in Charlottesville, there is one additional question you should really ask:
"How do you feel about the murder of Heather Heyer?"
— Mangy Jay (@magi_jay) November 26, 2017
Maybe the Times should stop giving Nazis the soft-focus treatment, considering that this is — at the very least — the second profile they've done on white supremacists in the past year.
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