Magician Nate Staniforth shares his secret for finding wonder and awe in the everyday. Staniforth, a career magician and former host of Discovery Channel's "Breaking Magic," joined Salon's Alli Joseph on "Salon Talks" to discuss his memoir "Here is Real Magic: A Magician's Search for Wonder in the Modern World."

He shares how a trip to India changed his outlook on magic and the world. "The thing that travel and magic have in common is that they both deliver this cataclysmic death blow to nay sense of certainty that you have with the world," Staniforth said.

Where does a magician find magic? According to Staniforth everyone, even non-believers, can connect with the idea of magic. "There's a difference between living in the story that you tell yourself about the world and the world itself and anything that pulls you out of your own head and just makes you stare for a second at the actual world and roots you in the present moment -that's amazing." Watch the interview above to learn why Staniforth thinks magic plays a special role during turbulent political times.