New York Times bestselling author Rick Wilson shares his take on defeating Donald Trump in 2020. It's simple, Wilson says. Attack Trump at every turn. In his latest book, "Running Against the Devil: A Plot to Save America from Trump — and Democrats from Themselves," the former Republican strategist shows Democrats the attack machine they'll be up against in 2020 and what strategies will actually work for defeating Trump. "Give me a Democratic policy briefing book, because I will make a hundred ads out of it. They will be demagogic. They will be terrifying. They will be lies piled upon lies," Wilson said. To learn more about why Wilson is advising Democrats to give up on policy and focus on Trump, watch the full episode on "Salon Talks."